What Does It Mean To Register As A Law Student To A Bar Admissions Board

Hi! I had mine submitted on April five (thought I wouldn't pass the february bar exam). I checked the status website and it says paper application received and under review. I oasis't received any update on the status, but I plant out past calling the office that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were non all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through some other state's C&F without any result 2 years ago.

I was told it would accept a minimum of six months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought information technology was minimum ninety days, not 6 months. I take a task offer that hinges on me passing the awarding by July 3. I don't think it is going to happen.... Can you share your feel on how much fourth dimension Moral Graphic symbol application takes to complete? Everyone who submitted their Moral Character awarding afterwards Feb bar test but got cleared already? Is there anything I can practice? Please assist....I feel so in despair...

Post by **SmokeytheBear** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:52 pm

cutipiejin wrote:Hi! I had mine submitted on Apr 5 (thought I wouldn't laissez passer the feb bar exam). I checked the condition website and it says newspaper application received and under review. I oasis't received any update on the condition, simply I found out by calling the office that my case was assigned to an annotator. My references were not all contacted, merely those who were contacted already sent in their responses in tardily April. I accept no ruby flags. I went through another country's C&F without whatsoever issue ii years ago.

I was told information technology would take a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum 90 days, not half dozen months. I accept a job offer that hinges on me passing the application by July 3. I don't recall it is going to happen.... Can yous share your experience on how much fourth dimension Moral Graphic symbol application takes to complete? Anybody who submitted their Moral Grapheme awarding after February bar exam simply got cleared already? Is there anything I can do? Please assistance....I feel and then in despair...

I have friends who cleared in xxx days.

It took mine several months to clear because I wasn't specific plenty about different BS jobs I had while in college at my college years prior. They bounced information technology dorsum asking for which departments etc. Then it became clear that my awarding was just put in a unlike stack that takes longer to procedure.

A friend at my firm had a his awarding similarly placed in the wearisome stack and he somehow got the proper noun of the analyst who had his file. He but followed up with the analyst weekly until information technology was cleared.

If you can somehow discover who who your analyst is, that might help.

Mail service past **cutipiejin** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:10 pm

SmokeytheBear wrote:

cutipiejin wrote:Hi! I had mine submitted on April 5 (idea I wouldn't pass the february bar exam). I checked the condition website and it says paper awarding received and under review. I oasis't received any update on the status, only I establish out by calling the role that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were non all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through another state'south C&F without whatever effect ii years ago.

I was told it would have a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum xc days, non 6 months. I have a chore offer that hinges on me passing the application by July 3. I don't recall it is going to happen.... Can you share your feel on how much fourth dimension Moral Grapheme awarding takes to consummate? Everyone who submitted their Moral Character application after Feb bar test only got cleared already? Is at that place anything I can practise? Please assistance....I feel and then in despair...

I accept friends who cleared in 30 days.

Information technology took mine several months to articulate because I wasn't specific enough about different BS jobs I had while in college at my college years prior. They bounced information technology dorsum request for which departments etc. Then it became clear that my awarding was only put in a different stack that takes longer to procedure.

A friend at my firm had a his application similarly placed in the slow stack and he somehow got the name of the analyst who had his file. He but followed up with the analyst weekly until it was cleared.

If you tin can somehow find who who your annotator is, that might help.

xxx days is amazing. I hope my application was in that kind of stack....

I know whom my analyst is, and called, but basically she said I have to sit tight and wait. I am afraid to phone call her over again because she did not sound too excited when I asked if in that location was anything I tin aid. I am debating whether to give her a telephone call, but I really don't accept any practiced reason to phone call her and afraid she will see the call as "pushing" and put my file to the bottom of her stack. Argh....

Post by **9xSound** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:34 pm

I submitted my moral grapheme app in late September or early October during my last year of police schoolhouse. I didn't receive my approval until late the following March — five full months. Nobody contacted me for any clarifications, and I didn't needle anybody about status. From everything I've read and heard, prodding the analyst with your awarding doesn't work anyway, and it might fifty-fifty rotate your app to the bottom of the stack.

The only ruddy flag on my app was the non-judicial punishment I received once in the Marines, which was a trumped upwards charge by a second lieutenant who admittedly hated me personally and wanted to damage my rep any mode he could. My infraction could not take been more petty (I didn't dump my trash). But I had fun with information technology on my moral graphic symbol app. After writing out the incident in item, I wrote, "Fifty-fifty today, all these years later, this still burns me up. The only reason he put that blemish on my service tape was because he could."

OP here.

My moral character application is nevertheless under review. I filed it on April five and received an electronic mail on July xiv confirming the initial processing. My "pre-processor" (a person who reviews my file earlier it is assigned to an analyst) has not fifty-fifty reviewed my file. She kept maxim it takes a minimum of 180 days and so I should just sit down tight and expect. Mine does not take whatsoever ruddy flag or anything. I passed Grapheme Fettle in another state in 2015 without any issue. She says there is no missing form or anything.

Information technology seems so ridiculous to me that a "pre" processor has not even taken a wait at my file even though it was filed more than than 90 days ago. It is then frustrating. More then because there is nix I tin can do.

My job offer expired because my Moral Character was not completed in early July.

Post by **CAnow** » Wed Jul nineteen, 2017 4:56 pm

The moral character application process is outside your control (and the employer should know that). If the employer is judging your operation based on what others are doing, then that's probably not the type of place you would want to work for anyhow.

Post by **SmokeytheBear** » Wednesday Jul 19, 2017 6:00 pm

CAnow wrote:The moral character application process is outside your control (and the employer should know that). If the employer is judging your performance based on what others are doing, then that'south probably not the blazon of place y'all would want to piece of work for anyway.

Agreed. That's just pure horseshit.

Postal service by **AspiringCALawyer** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:28 am

cutipiejin wrote:Hi! I had mine submitted on April 5 (thought I wouldn't pass the feb bar exam). I checked the status website and information technology says paper awarding received and under review. I haven't received any update on the status, but I found out by calling the office that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were not all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through another state's C&F without any consequence 2 years agone.

I was told it would take a minimum of half-dozen months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum 90 days, not 6 months. I have a job offer that hinges on me passing the awarding by July 3. I don't call back it is going to happen.... Can you share your experience on how much time Moral Grapheme application takes to complete? Anybody who submitted their Moral Character application afterwards Feb bar exam but got cleared already? Is there anything I tin do? Please assist....I feel so in despair...

I submitted my completed application in June 2016 and was canonical in January 2017. The merely additional request I had received was for a current copy of my credit report. Since it'southward good for 3 years, it'll streamline my application for in-house counsel (programme B) in one case I go a chore or information technology'll streamline my admission once I laissez passer the bar (plan A) (already failed twice).

That'due south so baroque that your job would require yous to pass graphic symbol and fettle by a certain engagement. Although information technology takes a long time, I view that requirement as a formality. Passing the bar seems like a bigger hurdle. That sucks.

Post by **tilly** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:23 pm

I'chiliad at 5 months and counting. I check online similar every day and it only says "nether review." So frustrating.

Anyone submit a 2017 Moral Character application who can shed some lite on how long information technology took to approve the application, how long the application has been pending, etc.?

Post by **PorscheFanatic** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:34 pm

I submitted my application around March 2017. I was canonical sometime that June (so about 3-4 months later).

Unfortunately, I failed the bar, so I yet have that hurdle to go over next month.

Postal service by **tilly** » Wed January 10, 2018 iii:59 pm

PorscheFanatic wrote:I submitted my awarding around March 2017. I was approved sometime that June (then about three-4 months later).

Unfortunately, I failed the bar, so I notwithstanding have that hurdle to go over side by side month.

Oh man, I'm deplorable about the examination result Adept luck on the Feb examination.

I'm so jealous of the iii-4 month turn effectually. That is what I was expecting, because my application/groundwork are very directly forward. I was told to expect at least some other month before someone LOOKS at my file, at which indicate they will tell me if they need any additional information. I was likewise told that the "usual" processing time is "6 to 8 months" - which was the first time I had heard that pushed to 8 months. Either way, it looks like I got slotted into the boring stack - I could cry.

Post by **tilly** » Wednesday January 10, 2018 four:48 pm

cutipiejin wrote:I have no carmine flags. I went through another state's C&F without any issue 2 years ago.

I was told information technology would accept a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal?

My working theory at this point is that attorneys already licenced in other jurisdictions are slotted into the same stack, and that stack takes longer to process. I was told to expect my file to accept the "usual" time of "6 to eight months" to process. I just about fell over when she said 8 months! I empathize that if in that location are issues with your application, then the procedure could accept much longer than 6 months. But I ever thought the "worst case" for a file with no issues to exist 6 months.

Mail service by **DeadlyLaw** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:59 pm

I submitted my application one twelvemonth agone and nonetheless am "under review". "Luckily" I had to retake the bar and then this has not been an result equally of yet. That being said, I sure would Love to come across this process come to a determination!

About six months ago, they asked me for an updated driving record or credit report, which I promptly submitted. Other than that, I accept no idea what is taking and so long.

My story is non even close to unique nor is information technology as bad as some that I have heard of (although, similar i said, i STILL am "nether review").

Ugh.

Post by **davisr197** » Midweek Mar 21, 2018 4:51 pm

I am in the same boat. I submitted my application over one year ago at present and had to submit data nearly a misdemeanor conviction I had back in 2012. While I am still "under review" information technology is a lilliputian aggravating that this process has taken over a twelvemonth.

At least I know I am not the only one that is taking this long to evaluate and information technology is good to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making information technology take and so long.

Post by **davisr197** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:52 pm

I am in the aforementioned boat. I submitted my awarding over one year agone now and had to submit information well-nigh a misdemeanor conviction I had dorsum in 2012. While I am however "nether review" it is a little aggravating that this process has taken over a year.

At to the lowest degree I know I am not the only one that is taking this long to evaluate and it is good to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making it accept so long.

Postal service past **anchok** » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:26 pm

PorscheFanatic wrote:I submitted my application around March 2017. I was canonical onetime that June (so nigh 3-4 months later).

Unfortunately, I failed the bar, so I yet have that hurdle to get over next month.

"Practise you lot remember subsequently you lot were cleared how long did information technology take to receive the oath menu?" I got a letter saying that my moral grapheme has been cleared and it will take another 3-iv weeks to receive the oath package! I hope information technology'southward not gonna take that long again(((

Mail past **BrainToast** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:45 am

davisr197 wrote:I am in the same gunkhole. I submitted my application over ane year ago now and had to submit information near a misdemeanor conviction I had back in 2012. While I am notwithstanding "under review" it is a trivial aggravating that this procedure has taken over a twelvemonth.

At to the lowest degree I know I am non the only 1 that is taking this long to evaluate and it is good to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making information technology take and so long.

Accept you lot tried calling and speaking to your annotator? One yr is pretty darn long. Even with the confidence.

Post by **nib** » Wed April 11, 2018 i:23 am

Mine was just cleared on 4/half-dozen. What's interesting is that it went direct from "Application Under Review" to "Cleared" without anything in between. I was under the impression that there was a period during which the condition changes to "Assigned to Analyst". I also didn't receive any notifications, unless the approval alphabetic character is still in the mail.

For reference, I mailed in my total awarding mid-December, and got confirmation of receipt on January 31. So, pretty quick turn-effectually fourth dimension - about ii months from receipt to clearance. Definitely not the "minimum 180 days". But, I didn't take anything on there that would heighten whatsoever cerise flags, so I'grand certain that explains the fast processing.

Post by **iplaw4me2** » Midweek Apr eleven, 2018 ix:31 am

Mine took forever in California, only they magically got it washed right later on bar results released in 2014 and just in fourth dimension to swear-in. Without a deadline work tends to aggrandize to fill up the time bachelor.

I suggest you either contact the annotator to let them know you have a contingent job offer that requires admission by July 3 and enquire if you should continue looking for another job, or just make it official and write them an "update alphabetic character" letting them know about your potential change in employment status and the fact that it'southward contingent upon clearing past July 3. Y'all can play it off similar yous're just giving the annotator the latest data on what you're up to, only they'll know what'south upwardly - either they get you cleared past July 3 or your unemployed and and they volition have to live with themselves for that. They're homo, they'll try to hook yous up.

To all those people proverb y'all should tell the employer you don't want to work for anyone who imposes requirements outside of your control I would just say that maybe this person needs to take the chore they were offered and not agree out for a position as the CEO of Apple just yet.

Post by **InterAlia1961** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:43 pm

davisr197 wrote:I am in the same boat. I submitted my application over one year ago at present and had to submit information about a misdemeanor conviction I had back in 2012. While I am still "under review" it is a little aggravating that this process has taken over a year.

At to the lowest degree I know I am not the simply one that is taking this long to evaluate and it is skillful to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making it take so long.

It is the content of the evaluation. If they haven't admitted yous after a twelvemonth, you can be sure you're in danger of being denied. It volition likely accept a total of xviii mos. for the official denial. A misdemeanor nether 10-years former is going to be an issue. I know this for a fact. In society to be admitted with any criminal conviction, you must show that you lot have rehabilitated yourself in the time that has passed. You lot should kickoff calling your annotator ASAP. Don't expect for them to contact you lot. Your silence is non seen as being cooperative. Information technology's seen every bit a sign that you know you aren't ready to be admitted. You lot will well-nigh certainly be invited to an informal hearing in the side by side six months. If you don't go, you won't exist admitted. If you practise get and tin can't show how you take worked to rehabilitate yourself, you'll exist denied admission. Either way, if you're denied, you can apply over again in two years. If I was in your shoes, I'd desire to get the denial as soon as possible and then I could re-apply equally presently as possible. Bar results are just skilful for five years. Good luck.

Mail service by **BrainToast** » Tue April 17, 2018 11:54 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:

davisr197 wrote:I am in the aforementioned boat. I submitted my application over one year agone now and had to submit information about a misdemeanor conviction I had back in 2012. While I am all the same "under review" it is a piffling aggravating that this process has taken over a year.

At least I know I am not the only i that is taking this long to evaluate and information technology is good to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making it accept so long.

It is the content of the evaluation. If they haven't admitted you lot subsequently a yr, you tin be sure you're in danger of beingness denied. It will likely have a full of 18 mos. for the official denial. A misdemeanor under 10-years erstwhile is going to be an issue. I know this for a fact. In society to exist admitted with whatsoever criminal conviction, you must prove that you have rehabilitated yourself in the time that has passed. You lot should start calling your analyst ASAP. Don't wait for them to contact you. Your silence is not seen as being cooperative. It's seen as a sign that you know y'all aren't prepare to be admitted. You will nearly certainly exist invited to an informal hearing in the next vi months. If you don't get, you won't exist admitted. If y'all exercise go and can't show how you accept worked to rehabilitate yourself, you'll be denied admission. Either manner, if you're denied, you tin can employ once again in ii years. If I was in your shoes, I'd want to become the denial as soon as possible so I could re-employ as soon as possible. Bar results are only proficient for five years. Good luck.

What if information technology has been over ten years? Are those non considered?

Mail by **InterAlia1961** » Wed Apr eighteen, 2018 3:07 pm

BrainToast wrote:

InterAlia1961 wrote:

davisr197 wrote:I am in the same boat. I submitted my application over one year ago now and had to submit information about a misdemeanor confidence I had back in 2012. While I am still "under review" it is a little aggravating that this process has taken over a year.

At to the lowest degree I know I am non the only one that is taking this long to evaluate and it is expert to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making it take so long.

Information technology is the content of the evaluation. If they haven't admitted you after a yr, you can be certain yous're in danger of being denied. It volition likely take a total of xviii mos. for the official denial. A misdemeanor under ten-years quondam is going to be an issue. I know this for a fact. In order to exist admitted with whatever criminal confidence, you must show that y'all take rehabilitated yourself in the time that has passed. You should start calling your annotator ASAP. Don't look for them to contact you. Your silence is non seen as being cooperative. It's seen every bit a sign that you know you aren't ready to exist admitted. You will nigh certainly be invited to an informal hearing in the next half dozen months. If you don't get, you lot won't be admitted. If y'all practice get and can't show how y'all have worked to rehabilitate yourself, you'll be denied admission. Either mode, if you're denied, you can employ again in two years. If I was in your shoes, I'd desire to get the denial equally soon every bit possible so I could re-apply as shortly as possible. Bar results are merely good for five years. Good luck.

What if it has been over x years? Are those not considered?

They are most certainly considered. Even those that are decades old. The Bar takes whatsoever kind of conviction seriously. Trying to downplay it equally a "just a misdemeanor" is a mistake. If the confidence was for fraud, theft, or another moral turpitude, like lying to a probation officer, it makes things all that more difficult. If the conviction was a event of a breach of fiduciary duty or if there are multiple misdemeanor convictions for fraud, theft, or lying, they are looking for a spectacular effort at rehabilitation. Simply doing pro-bono work won't cut it, considering equally the Bar puts it, applicants are expected to exercise pro bono work.

In guild to overcome this hurdle, the applicant with a less than stellar background has to be honest with themselves and the Bar almost what happened and what the bidder has learned and how they have put what they have learned into action to brand amends. It'due south not enough that the applicant apologized and hasn't had any incidents in years. They tell yous what they are looking for. Read the Glass decision. The Bar specifically stated that Glass hadn't repayed any of the money he caused people to lose. Over the last five years, he has quietly been sending his former colleagues huge checks. He'll probable try again to become admitted. Here'due south a link to the CalBar website where they talk over rehabilitation. If anyone is having C&F issues, they should read it closely.

http://world wide web.calbar.ca.gov/Admissions/Mor ... er/Factors

Postal service by **BrainToast** » Wednesday Apr 18, 2018 eight:30 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:

BrainToast wrote:

InterAlia1961 wrote:

davisr197 wrote:I am in the same boat. I submitted my application over one year ago now and had to submit information about a misdemeanor conviction I had back in 2012. While I am still "under review" it is a little aggravating that this procedure has taken over a year.

At least I know I am not the only one that is taking this long to evaluate and it is good to know that the content of the evaluation is not what is making it take so long.

It is the content of the evaluation. If they haven't admitted you after a twelvemonth, you tin can be certain you're in danger of being denied. It will likely accept a total of 18 mos. for the official denial. A misdemeanor under x-years old is going to exist an upshot. I know this for a fact. In order to exist admitted with any criminal conviction, you must show that you lot accept rehabilitated yourself in the fourth dimension that has passed. Yous should first calling your annotator ASAP. Don't wait for them to contact you lot. Your silence is not seen as existence cooperative. Information technology'south seen as a sign that you know you aren't set up to be admitted. You lot will almost certainly exist invited to an informal hearing in the next 6 months. If you don't become, you won't exist admitted. If you lot practise become and can't prove how you have worked to rehabilitate yourself, you'll be denied access. Either way, if you're denied, you tin can apply again in two years. If I was in your shoes, I'd want to get the denial as soon as possible so I could re-utilise equally presently as possible. Bar results are merely good for five years. Skilful luck.

What if information technology has been over x years? Are those not considered?

They are most certainly considered. Fifty-fifty those that are decades erstwhile. The Bar takes whatever kind of conviction seriously. Trying to downplay it as a "just a misdemeanor" is a mistake. If the confidence was for fraud, theft, or some other moral turpitude, like lying to a probation officeholder, it makes things all that more than hard. If the conviction was a upshot of a alienation of fiduciary duty or if there are multiple misdemeanor convictions for fraud, theft, or lying, they are looking for a spectacular endeavor at rehabilitation. Simply doing pro-bono work won't cut it, because as the Bar puts it, applicants are expected to practise pro bono piece of work.

In order to overcome this hurdle, the applicant with a less than stellar background has to exist honest with themselves and the Bar almost what happened and what the applicant has learned and how they have put what they have learned into activity to make amends. It's not enough that the bidder apologized and hasn't had whatever incidents in years. They tell you what they are looking for. Read the Glass determination. The Bar specifically stated that Glass hadn't repayed any of the coin he acquired people to lose. Over the last five years, he has quietly been sending his old colleagues huge checks. He'll likely try again to become admitted. Here's a link to the CalBar website where they discuss rehabilitation. If anyone is having C&F issues, they should read it closely.

http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Admissions/Mor ... er/Factors

Well then I may be in problem. Ii convictions in my teens 15 years ago, petty theft and imitation ID going to a bar. Both alcohol related. I was blacked out both times. Stopped drinking because of it.

Mail service past **InterAlia1961** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:56 am

BrainToast wrote:
Well then I may be in trouble. Two convictions in my teens xv years ago, petty theft and fake ID going to a bar. Both alcohol related. I was blacked out both times. Stopped drinking because of information technology.

You're only in trouble if you didn't disclose it and if you can't show you have rehabilitated yourself. If yous haven't heard anything at all from the Bar in a twelvemonth, and so something is wrong. I know from experience that doing naught and "hoping" for the best is the wrong tactic if you know there's a trouble. Be proactive. Make certain to document that you quit drinking. You'll likely exist admitted, simply don't expect it to happen without y'all actively trying to make it happen.

Mail by **BrainToast** » Thu April 19, 2018 7:24 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:

BrainToast wrote:
Well and then I may be in problem. Two convictions in my teens 15 years ago, petty theft and imitation ID going to a bar. Both alcohol related. I was blacked out both times. Stopped drinking because of it.

You're simply in trouble if you didn't disembalm it and if you lot can't show yous have rehabilitated yourself. If you haven't heard annihilation at all from the Bar in a twelvemonth, then something is wrong. I know from experience that doing nothing and "hoping" for the best is the wrong tactic if y'all know there'southward a problem. Exist proactive. Make sure to document that you lot quit drinking. You'll likely be admitted, but don't expect it to happen without you actively trying to make it happen.

I did disclose everything to them. I also retrieved all the police reports and court records and put it in a dainty package for them to review. In my explanation, I told them about the drinking and was very remorseful and embarrassed, which is truly how I feel. I made no excuses.

Likewise, I submitted my application December 2017 and am currently "Under Review."

As far as rehabilitation, I have no incidents since, I have solid credit and nifty work history. All my employers and personal references are attorneys. I accept a job offer likewise.

Do you lot recollect I should telephone call and let them know that?

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